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Phidias Propfirm vs The5ers Futures: price, cost to get funded and rules side by side. Pick an account size to compare like for like.
Key numbers at 50K
| Value | Phidias Propfirm | The5ers Futures |
|---|---|---|
| Evaluation price | $88/mo with code PROPFIRMVS: $35.20/mo | $59 |
| Activation fee | $83 | None |
| Cost to get funded | $259 (2 months + activation, list price) | $59 (eval + activation, list price) |
| Profit target | $1,500 | $1,500 |
| Max drawdown | $500 | $1,000 |
| Drawdown type | Static balance | Trailing end-of-day |
| Daily loss limit | None | Unverified |
| Consistency (evaluation) | None | 40% |
| Max contracts | 2 | 2 |
| Contracts when funded (start) | Unverified | 2 |
| Reset fee | Unverified | Unverified |
| Plan | 25K Express to Live | Day Trade 25K |
| Evaluation price | $164/mo with code PROPFIRMVS: $65.60/mo | $100 |
| Activation fee | $149 | None |
| Cost to get funded | $477 (2 months + activation, list price) | $100 (eval + activation, list price) |
| Profit target | $4,000 | $3,000 |
| Max drawdown | $2,500 | $2,000 |
| Drawdown type | Trailing end-of-day | Trailing end-of-day |
| Daily loss limit | None | Unverified |
| Consistency (evaluation) | None | 40% |
| Max contracts | 10 | 4 |
| Contracts when funded (start) | Unverified | 4 |
| Reset fee | Unverified | Unverified |
| Plan | 50K Fundamental | Day Trade 50K |
| Evaluation price | $273/mo with code PROPFIRMVS: $109.20/mo | $189 |
| Activation fee | $149 | None |
| Cost to get funded | $695 (2 months + activation, list price) | $189 (eval + activation, list price) |
| Profit target | $6,000 | $6,000 |
| Max drawdown | $3,000 | $4,000 |
| Drawdown type | Trailing end-of-day | Trailing end-of-day |
| Daily loss limit | None | $2,500 |
| Consistency (evaluation) | None | 40% |
| Max contracts | 14 | 8 |
| Contracts when funded (start) | Unverified | 8 |
| Reset fee | Unverified | Unverified |
| Plan | 100K Fundamental | Swing 100K |
| Evaluation price | $398/mo with code PROPFIRMVS: $159.20/mo | $219 |
| Activation fee | $169 | None |
| Cost to get funded | $965 (2 months + activation, list price) | $219 (eval + activation, list price) |
| Profit target | $4,500 | $9,000 |
| Max drawdown | $1,000 | $6,000 |
| Drawdown type | Static balance | Trailing end-of-day |
| Daily loss limit | None | $3,750 |
| Consistency (evaluation) | None | 40% |
| Max contracts | 9 | 12 |
| Contracts when funded (start) | Unverified | 12 |
| Reset fee | Unverified | Unverified |
| Plan | 150K Express to Live | Swing 150K |
Cost to get funded = evaluation fee (two months for monthly subscriptions) + activation fee; it assumes you pass on the first attempt and excludes data fees and resets.
Price, target and drawdown by account size
| Size | Phidias Propfirm | The5ers Futures |
|---|---|---|
| 25K | $88/mo with code PROPFIRMVS: $35.20/mo Target $1,500 · Max DD $500 | $59 Target $1,500 · Max DD $1,000 |
| 50K | $164/mo with code PROPFIRMVS: $65.60/mo Target $4,000 · Max DD $2,500 | $100 Target $3,000 · Max DD $2,000 |
| 100K | $273/mo with code PROPFIRMVS: $109.20/mo Target $6,000 · Max DD $3,000 | $189 Target $6,000 · Max DD $4,000 |
| 150K | $398/mo with code PROPFIRMVS: $159.20/mo Target $4,500 · Max DD $1,000 | $219 Target $9,000 · Max DD $6,000 |
Rules side by side
| Rule | Phidias Propfirm PropFirmVS code from the firm · No end date publishedGet deal | The5ers Futures |
|---|---|---|
| Drawdown modelⓘ | Trailing end-of-day | Trailing end-of-day |
| Profit splitⓘ | Progressive 75% -> 80% -> 85% -> 90% -> 100% from 5th payout | 80% on all accounts and all payouts |
| Payoutsⓘ | Every 5 days | Bi-weekly |
| Consistency ruleⓘ | None in the evaluation | 40% best-day cap |
| Consistency when funded | None | 40% (payout phase) |
| Daily loss limitⓘ | None | Yes |
| Daily loss breach | No daily loss limit | Hard: account fails |
| Drawdown lock | Unverified | Unverified |
| News tradingⓘ | Allowed | Allowed |
| News window when funded | No restriction | No restriction |
| Weekend holdingⓘ | Allowed | Not allowed |
| Overnight holdingⓘ | Allowed | Not allowed |
| Automation / EAs | Restricted | Not allowed |
| Challenge steps | 1-step | 1-step |
| Evaluation time limit | Unverified | No time limit |
| Hedging | Restricted | Not allowed |
| Copy trading | Restricted | Restricted |
| Scalping | Allowed | Restricted |
| Martingale | Unverified | Unverified |
| Accounts you may hold | 5 | 5 |
| Min. trading daysⓘ | 3 days | 1 days |
| Activation / PA feeⓘ | $83–$169 by size | None |
| Commission per round turn | ES $4.40 · MES $1.58 | Per FAQ: $5.00 standard contracts, $2.50 micros |
| Data feed feeⓘ | Included | Included |
| Reset feeⓘ | Varies / unverified | Varies / unverified |
| Fee refund | No | Yes |
| First payout after | Unverified | 14 days |
| Payout methods | Rise | Rise, Crypto, Bank wire |
| Max payouts | 1, then E2L: Switch to Live after hitting target on CASH… | Unverified |
| Funded account | Simulated, then live | Simulated (per terms) |
| Payout bufferⓘ | Fundamental/Premium: min withdrawal $500, balance after withdrawal cannot fall below… | Payout requires a funded account, >=4% profit over the initial balance and account age… |
| Contract scalingⓘ | Fixed per size: E2L 2/5/7/9 minis | Fixed per size, same in evaluation and funded: 25K 2 mini/20 micro, 50K 4/40, 100K 8/80… |
| Headquarters | Gibraltar | Israel |
| Founded | 2023 | 2016 |
| Platforms | Rithmic, Tradovate, NinjaTrader, TradingView, DeepCharts | BlackArrow |
| Entry price | from $35.20 / month | from $59 |
| Promo code | PROPFIRMVS (60% off) | None known |
| Rules auto-checked | 2026-10-09 | 2026-10-18 |
Highlighted rows differ between firms. Green = trader-friendly, red = restrictive, “Unverified” = we could not confirm it from the firm’s public rules.